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		<title>Twitter Updates for 2010-11-13</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 04:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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@criseyde It&#8217;s the perfect night to plop &#8216;The Mist&#8217; into the DVD player&#8230;er maybe not.That movie was rather depressing. &#8216;The Fog&#8217; perhaps? #

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<li>@criseyde It&#8217;s the perfect night to plop &#8216;The Mist&#8217; into the DVD player&#8230;er maybe not.That movie was rather depressing. &#8216;The Fog&#8217; perhaps? <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/3.28308952662E+15">#</a></li>
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		<title>Twitter Updates for 2010-11-12</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 04:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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well &#8230; http://www.effoff.com was NOT the website I thought it would be.  20 unfortunate urls http://j.mp/aYSZsY tip o&#8217; hat to @boagworld #
Never understood TV channels running ads in other media. If your *real* product is a venue for serving ads, what are you saying with that? #

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<li>well &#8230; <a href="http://www.effoff.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.effoff.com</a> was NOT the website I thought it would be.  20 unfortunate urls <a href="http://j.mp/aYSZsY" rel="nofollow">http://j.mp/aYSZsY</a> tip o&#8217; hat to @boagworld <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/3.08916282354E+15">#</a></li>
<li>Never understood TV channels running ads in other media. If your *real* product is a venue for serving ads, what are you saying with that? <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/3.09211278659E+15">#</a></li>
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		<title>Twitter Updates for 2010-11-11</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 04:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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@kevinsroe heck I&#8217;m sold.  Potato chips - now with 10% less scurvy. #

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<li>@kevinsroe heck I&#8217;m sold.  Potato chips - now with 10% less scurvy. <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/2.86939047527E+15">#</a></li>
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		<title>Twitter Updates for 2010-11-10</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 04:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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Getting tired of running the newsy gauntlet each day, with the foisting of free dailies into my face at every subway entrance and exit. #
Would be nice to have a plain &#8216;ol Gauntlet for a change&#8230;  &#8220;Warrior needs food - badly&#8221; #

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<li>Getting tired of running the newsy gauntlet each day, with the foisting of free dailies into my face at every subway entrance and exit. <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/2.3541616644E+15">#</a></li>
<li>Would be nice to have a plain &#8216;ol Gauntlet for a change&#8230;  &#8220;Warrior needs food - badly&#8221; <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/2.3546814561E+15">#</a></li>
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		<title>Twitter Updates for 2010-11-09</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 04:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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Not all PR outcomes have a direct sales result.Many are foundation building that provide enviro that allow sales.ROI poor #measurePR there. #
Treat communications for what it is - a cost center - and focus on whether you are delivering the outcome for reasonable $&#8217;s. #measurePR #
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<li>Not all PR outcomes have a direct sales result.Many are foundation building that provide enviro that allow sales.ROI poor #measurePR there. <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/2.04910101738E+15">#</a></li>
<li>Treat communications for what it is - a cost center - and focus on whether you are delivering the outcome for reasonable $&#8217;s. #measurePR <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/2.04945893832E+15">#</a></li>
<li><a href="mailto:.@shonali">.@shonali</a>  A3: that&#8217;s an easy one. Start with the goals. Start with the objectives. Vague goals = unmeasurable program #measurePR <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/2.04991813072E+15">#</a></li>
<li>A3: other thing to consider for measurement program, ask your client &#8220;What decision will this impact?&#8221;  none? then why #measurePR <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/2.05127900621E+15">#</a></li>
<li>@thebrandbuilder @shonali  But dig deep.  Ask why?  Why more reach?  Why more impressions?  To what end? Get to real goals. #measurePR <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/2.05235677456E+15">#</a></li>
<li>yes - benchmark and baseline.  You need to know where you are to know where you want to go. #measurePR <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/2.05300981931E+15">#</a></li>
<li>A to Q &#8216;can this be measured?&#8217;&#8230; if something changes, then yes, it can be measured. If nothing chgs, then what are you doing?! #measurePR <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/2.05407565487E+15">#</a></li>
<li>@Lauren_Horn if there is no change to observe, then there&#8217;s no objective means of determining your outcome. No need for you to do anything. <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/2.05511207577E+15">#</a></li>
<li>A4: Soc Med is about relationship building.Relationships+trust are not built in a day,just like your brand was not built in a day #measurePR <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/2.05601678714E+15">#</a></li>
<li>@shonali @thebrandbuilder  very true - attention can be bought, but ask the client if attention was really the goal?  #measurePR <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/2.0586303838E+15">#</a></li>
<li>yes thx @shonali @thebrandbuilder and all who made this a thought provoking/engaging #measurePR <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/2.05895985057E+15">#</a></li>
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		<title>Twitter Updates for 2010-11-06</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 04:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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I just unlocked the &#8220;Crunked&#8221; badge on @foursquare! http://4sq.com/962L9s #
I just unlocked the &#8220;Crunked&#8221; badge on @foursquare! http://4sq.com/962L9s #
I just unlocked the &#8220;Crunked&#8221; badge on @foursquare! http://4sq.com/962L9s #
@Stephen_GM lol &#8230; No, I guess it doesn&#8217;t.  Tho multi stops via public transit is kinda crunked #
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<li>I just unlocked the &#8220;Crunked&#8221; badge on @foursquare! <a href="http://4sq.com/962L9s" rel="nofollow">http://4sq.com/962L9s</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/7.6162552719E+14">#</a></li>
<li>I just unlocked the &#8220;Crunked&#8221; badge on @foursquare! <a href="http://4sq.com/962L9s" rel="nofollow">http://4sq.com/962L9s</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/7.6162552719E+14">#</a></li>
<li>I just unlocked the &#8220;Crunked&#8221; badge on @foursquare! <a href="http://4sq.com/962L9s" rel="nofollow">http://4sq.com/962L9s</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/7.6162552719E+14">#</a></li>
<li>@Stephen_GM lol &#8230; No, I guess it doesn&#8217;t.  Tho multi stops via public transit is kinda crunked <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/7.63501555487E+14">#</a></li>
<li>@Stephen_GM lol &#8230; No, I guess it doesn&#8217;t.  Tho multi stops via public transit is kinda crunked <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/7.63501555487E+14">#</a></li>
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		<title>Twitter Updates for 2010-11-04</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 04:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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@inspiredtrain but are you looking to sell them something&#8230;?  If so, won&#8217;t that come out?  Does that not impact your authenticity? #
#smmeasure Relationship does not always = warm fuzzy hugs. It is alright to have a relationship based on that of vendor and purchaser. #
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<li>@inspiredtrain but are you looking to sell them something&#8230;?  If so, won&#8217;t that come out?  Does that not impact your authenticity? <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/29681496583">#</a></li>
<li>#smmeasure Relationship does not always = warm fuzzy hugs. It is alright to have a relationship based on that of vendor and purchaser. <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/29681584487">#</a></li>
<li>#smmeasure A3) specific results is always best. If influencer says Brand X rocks, and avg joe says &#8216;wow thx influencer, I&#8217;ll get X&#8217; then +1. <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/29681894144">#</a></li>
<li>curious as to what everyone in #smmeasure thinks &#8230;if awareness is the one and only goal, do you need an influencer? <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/29682209090">#</a></li>
<li>#smmeasure for that matter, is SM your best venue for straight awareness? Lot of time/investment building relationships for &#8216;eat at joes&#8217;. <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/29682287305">#</a></li>
<li>#smmeasure I&#8217;m just randomly opining that we need to be sure we can show that the bang for the buck on an influencer outreach &gt;= banner ad <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/29682680920">#</a></li>
<li>#smmeasure time = money and a relationship takes a lot of $s to maintain in biz. As measure folk we need to show those $s are worth it. <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/29682737958">#</a></li>
<li>#smmeasure (for record tho - I think relationships do provide a return for biz that depends on maximizing lifetime value of cust.) <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/29682877574">#</a></li>
<li>@addy_dren Holistically. Influencer outreach is but one tool in the box. Use right tool for right job. #smmeasure <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/29683172649">#</a></li>
<li>#smmeasure would point out that compensated influencers ought to disclose. (gratuitous plug for my biz -&gt; <a href="http://disclz.me" rel="nofollow">http://disclz.me</a> ) <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/29683415448">#</a></li>
<li>@ana_adi Whomever paid should understood they were paying for her public opinion and they pay att. to critiques #smmeasure <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/29683881501">#</a></li>
<li>We&#8217;re moving into interesting times where our focus groups and market research and consultations are happening in public #smmeasure <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/29684011168">#</a></li>
<li>thanks all for the quality #smmeasure.  Back to making a return on my employer&#8217;s investment ;P <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/29684100985">#</a></li>
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		<title>Twitter Updates for 2010-11-02</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 04:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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If consumers don&#8217;t use these tools responsibly they will start to lose their impact and power and will not be there when we do need them. #
@davidakermanis &#62;plonk&#60; is the sound of unsubscribing from a feed. &#62;ka-block&#60; is the sound of blocking on Twitter. &#62;kablam&#60; is likely L4D2 #
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<li>If consumers don&#8217;t use these tools responsibly they will start to lose their impact and power and will not be there when we do need them. <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/29437191241">#</a></li>
<li>@davidakermanis &gt;plonk&lt; is the sound of unsubscribing from a feed. &gt;ka-block&lt; is the sound of blocking on Twitter. &gt;kablam&lt; is likely L4D2 <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/29469725197">#</a></li>
<li>(I&#8217;d explain that &gt;plonk&lt; is actually a holdover from usenet killfiles but&#8230;there&#8217;s not enough characters to explain usenet to the kids) <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/29469861647">#</a></li>
<li>@dbarefoot is this whom you&#8217;re looking for <a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/11671744267656889999" rel="nofollow">http://www.blogger.com/profile/11671744267656889999</a> ? <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/29503918722">#</a></li>
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		<title>Twitter Updates for 2010-10-19</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 04:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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@dannyfsantos t&#8217;was great seeing you again.  Always happy to wax eloquent about social media over a cuppa joe. #

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<li>@dannyfsantos t&#8217;was great seeing you again.  Always happy to wax eloquent about social media over a cuppa joe. <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/27832446766">#</a></li>
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		<title>Twitter Updates for 2010-10-18</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 04:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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Been reading my son &#8216;The Princess Bride&#8217;.  Have discovered that my version of Miracle Max sounds more like Fake Stan Lee than Billy Crystal #

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<li>Been reading my son &#8216;The Princess Bride&#8217;.  Have discovered that my version of Miracle Max sounds more like Fake Stan Lee than Billy Crystal <a href="http://twitter.com/theelusivefish/statuses/27754302578">#</a></li>
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